Tripping the circuit breaker...

[vanthus]

Voltage for single phase in the UK can be between something like 230 & 240,
lets say your getting 230 Volts,then a 6 amp breaker will take 1380 watts before overloading,
more if the voltage is higher,it's more complicated than that but it's a rough guide.
So if the only thing your using in the room is the PC it shouldn't really trip the breaker unless there is a fault in the computer or there is some sort of initial surge with computers,like there is with electric motors, I'm not sure about that.
As I mentioned before trying the computer somewhere else with a "normal" supply would confirm it either way,as you have ruled out a weak breaker by trying the PC In other rooms.

 

[PokerFace]

Well that was an interesting read (sad thing is..I'm serious).

I guess the best thing you can do then is to leave the pc plugged in and turned on at the power switch as suggested by baron75, to try to avoid the amp/power spike. I do that anyway and I'd imagine a lot of people do. Just make sure you don't blow dry your hair whilst gaming

It's a weird situation when they say you can't use a kettle or a vacuum cleaner (although, it isn't usually necessary to discourage students from vacuuming is it? )

I guess the definitive answer would be reached by using it in another house. Somewhere that has a higher amp trip switch. I'm sure it would be fine then.

Anyway, hopefully you can manage for the time being.

 

[vanthus]

I guess the definitive answer would be reached by using it in another house.

I've been trying hard to get that over.
Baron,I dont see where he said "that the pc worked perfectly at home"

 

[morowe]

I've been trying hard to get that over.
Baron,I dont see where he said "that the pc worked perfectly at home"

I did somewhere i think but this post is getting pretty long! I used it at home for 3 straight days and had to unplug it a couple times to move it; no problem.

Also i do usually keep it plugged in the only reason I didn't was because i needed to change the ram and I know you should unplug when you open it up!

cant believe i cant use my hair dryer while gaming!!! how can i get the realistic wind effect now!?!? !

 

[vanthus]

Ah sorry,I see you did say it worked in your home(post 22)
Problem solved then really,it's the inadequate electrical setup in your room.

 

[vanthus]

Yes Baron75mk2, as I said I seen It,thing is what I'm trying to say is
if it still works in his home or any other "normal" electrical installation
it's pretty conclusive the electrical setup in the uni rooms are inadequate.

 

[Rakk]

there is a way around this & that is to purchase a higher rated RCD & just take the old one out & push the new one in , it is perfectly leagal & acceptable to do this as long as it is an industry standard RCD May cost £40 or so )

However, since it is university accommodation and the property does not belong to morowe, permission should be gained before even thinking about doing something like this, cos if permission isn't granted and it causes problems, I know exactly who is going to be in an awful lot of trouble.

 

[Rakk]

I was talking from a strictly leagal & safety Standpoint !!!!!

And I was just talking about the 'lets not get in trouble with the landlord' point of view and this has nothing to do with whether you're training to be an electrician or not
Remember many people read these forums, so my comment was just a clarification that may seem obvious to some but overlooked by others.

 

[c-hri-s]

^I completely agree with Rakk.

If it was my room, however, I'd be down to Maplins before you could blink.

 

[vanthus]

there is a way around this & that is to purchase a higher rated RCD & just take the old one out & push the new one in ,

Apart from what Rakk said,another reason not to do this is because the 6amp breaker is protecting the lighting circuit,
in all probability this will be wired in 1.5mm possibly even only 1.0mm,hence the 6 amp breaker.
and as i'm sure you know,upgrading the breaker could present a potential fire hazzard under fault conditions.

 

[baron75mk2]

And I was just talking about the 'lets not get in trouble with the landlord' point of view and this has nothing to do with whether you're training to be an electrician or not
Remember many people read these forums, so my comment was just a clarification that may seem obvious to some but overlooked by others.

All my posts in this thread have been deleted , being my advice is no good & misleading according to you , so sit in your mod chair & find someone else to pick on,

i was just trying to help the guy out - nothing more , no skin off my nose at all , from now on ill just read posts & not reply at all.

 

[Rakk]

I did not say it was misleading at all, all I was doing was clarifying one small point, is that so wrong ...

 

[baron75mk2]

I did not say it was misleading at all, all I was doing was clarifying one small point, is that so wrong ...

im not going to argue , its not what im here for , so far i have met great people here who are very helpful , but there is always one who decides in his seat of power he knows better & has to beat down the other guy ,

i would not give bad advice where this is concerned , as i alraedy stated , i trained for 7 years & a ferther 10 years & am FULLY skilled & dont need some armchair sparky telling my my buisness .

Or are you a fully skilled sparky your self ? - if so & you have been at it longer that me i will bow to your superior knowledge.

 

[Rakk]

All I was doing was clarifying one small point, which was basically get permission before you do stuff.

No I am not an electrician, and I've never claimed to be, I know virtually nothing about it, I would'nt touch my electrics with a barge pole for fear of doing something bad.

I did not say you were giving bad advice, it was interesting to someone who knows nothing about it.

PS. I can restore all your deleted messages if you so wish, since they were interesting, and there nothing was wrong with them, but surely you cant accuse me of picking on you just cos I suggested one small thing.

 

[baron75mk2]

Apart from what Rakk said,another reason not to do this is because the 6amp breaker is protecting the lighting circuit,
in all probability this will be wired in 1.5mm possibly even only 1.0mm,hence the 6 amp breaker.
and as i'm sure you know,upgrading the breaker could present a potential fire hazzard under fault conditions.

Have you not read the posts ? ( to late if you havent now ) , his lighting circutit is not the only thing on this circuit , the whole room is on the same breaker , this in its self is extreemely dangerous to have all sockets , lights etc all on one 6 amp breaker , they should be seperated - lights on 5 amp breaker with a wire diameter of 1.5mm cabling , sockets on a 25-30 amp breaker on 2.5mm industry standard cable.

This is why they wont let them use hoovers, kettles or anything else that draws high current ,becuase they know that the installtion is not adequate & dam right illegal according to all regulations ( & i can still remember all of these old & current)

so my suggestion of upgrading the RCD would not cause fire UNLESS THE WIRING ITS SELF IS FAULTY & if its not installed properly with wrong wiring , wrong RCDs , then the responsibility is ultimately down to them for having a bad installtion in the 1st place.

Enough already , i didnt come here to fight with people , i came here to get advice on things that im myself am not sure about (& there has been some very helpfull people here 1 guy in particular who helped me in every way he could) , & to help others with things i do know about,

& i will not give any advice on anything unless im 100% sure of what im talking about ,

Dont mistake "new member" for someone who has no knowledge or is to afraid to stand his / her ground just in fear of others jumping on the bandwagon or being banned from a forum.

 

[baron75mk2]

If it doesn't happen in your friends room, I'd swap your RCD for theirs

[rollinglaugh] i love it !!! , my post was completely trashed for suggesing a perfectly legal & safe fix , yet this above was ignored , to mess around with someone elses room / installation , without their knowledge & potentially cause issues with thier installtion is ok ??????????????

I dont remember giving out this kind of bad & illegal advice , yet my posts were picked to pieces & this was ignored ?? - priceless [rollinglaugh]

 

[baron75mk2]

^I completely agree with Rakk.

If it was my room, however, I'd be down to Maplins before you could blink.

[rollinglaugh] It gets better!! this is the guy agreeing with Rakk`s Fiar point - who advised morrowe to go off & steal his m8s rcd & swap it with his own from his room. (c-hri-s giving the bad advice not Rakk just to be clear)

Rakk`s point was a fair point wich maybe i should of addressed , but come on folks why was this illegal , & very bad advice not pounced all over ??

 

[Rakk]

Rakk`s point was a fair point wich maybe i should of addressed , but come on folks why was this illegal , & very bad advice not pounced all over ??

Because c-hri-s's comment was obviously said in jest, as the smiley face suggested - at least I took it as being said in jest.

 

[baron75mk2]

Because c-hri-s's comment was obviously said in jest, as the smiley face suggested - at least I took it as being said in jest.

so if i put a smiley behind a scentence then it makes everything ok ? come on !! - if this wasnt a public forum id tell you exactly what i think of you , youll make any excuse as to not admit your wrong even when its pointed out right in front of you !! - No you have made your mind up & thats it,

Shouldnt be a moderator , you have no interest in fairness - Just making sure you are right !!,

ill just make sure in future when telling someone to do something that is DAM RIGHT ILLEGAL!! to put a smiley behind it & that will make it all ok

& pounce all over someone who is trying to help someone else who made the small mistake of omitting one point that compaired to this is insignificant buy any reasonable persons standpoint - absolutely ridiculous & you know it .

 

[baron75mk2]

To morrowe , i am truely sorry that your thread has been turned in to an argument ( & ill admit i am parcially to blame for this but not entirely , just a shame that others cant take some responsibilty as well) ,but i wont back down form anyone moderator or not.

Here is my advice , just to be completely clear ( for the benifit of the knitpickers that is , not yourself)

1) Seek permission from who ever you need to about upgrading the RCD in your room.
2) i know it means spending money but employ a fully skilled sparky (with liability insurance - this is getting silly i have to put every little detail in , incase of being trashed) to come to your property/room & perform the work for you - he / she will also test the circuits for you after doing the work ( & i would be willing to guess he/she would condemn the setup as i have & make them put it to the right specification)
3) enjoy your new pc to the max.

Or you can simply just leave it plugged in at all times,

Either way i hope you get it all sorted & all the best.

& sorry again for the argument in your thread .