Issues with GRAND THEFT AUTO V and DEFIANCE 17.3 - 980M - I7 4720HQ - 16GB

[Fma965]

[SOLVED] Issues with GRAND THEFT AUTO V and DEFIANCE 17.3 - 980M - I7 4720HQ - 16GB

So i just bought a Defiance 17.3

This is the spec i purchased
Chassis & Display: Defiance Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU): Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4720HQ (2.60GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM): 8GB KINGSTON SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M - 4.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
1st Hard Disk: 500GB SERIAL ATA II 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (5,400rpm)
Memory Card Reader: Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste: ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Wireless/Wired Networking: GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-7265 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11AC) + BLUETOOTH

Now with 2 m.2 SSD's 500gb in RAID 0
16GB RAM total.


any way i am asking this question here as i i'm not sure what the issue is, it's running windows 8.1 x64 and i have a legit copy of GTA V (non-steam/social club version) bought from argos.

I can play GTA V but every couple of minutes my framerate (according to steam overlay, msi afterburner and bandicam) drops from 59.9FPS (my monitor refresh rate - vsync is on) to about 20-30FPS then straight back up to 59.9, i have checked gpu-z and my gpu isn't being throttled due to any perfcap reason. i have checked taskmgr and i am only using about 50-70% CPU when this happens, I know this is a new game but my GTX 570 and AMD A10-6600k can play this better than my £1.5k laptop... Any ideas?

Thanks.

 

[Fma965]

Sorry should probably add....

I have the latest NVidia driver (the game-ready driver for GTA V)
I have the latest GTA V update
I killed other processes using "Taskkill /f /fi 'username eq %username%'"
I am a IT Technician so know how to diagnose problems but this isn't being normal

3D Mark shows my benchmark result at 8159

 

[SmokeDarKnight]

What settings are you running it on? Also do you have the laptop on High Performance Mode?

 

[Fma965]

It doesn't matter what settings i run it on, i ran it on the lowest possible and even in 720p rather than 1080p and still didn't work, i got like 120fps but still sudden drops to 30fps. (vsync was off obviously)

Laptop is in high performance mode, was plugged in aswell, please see the 2nd post if you haven't already...

EDIT: Usually i ran it on the Nvidia recommended settings (which is mostly very-high) but like i said above it doesn't even work without framerate drops on low/off for everything.

Thanks.

 

[SmokeDarKnight]

Yeah i started typing before you typed that so i didn't see it.

So im understanding correctly, You could be standing still and getting a good FPS and it will drop to 30 without moving the camera.

Do you have a second monitor you can hook up and use GPUZ or MSI Afterburner to check your usage and temperatures etc?

 

[Fma965]

Hi yeah that's ok, I have 3 monitors (well including the laptop screen) i had GPU-z and task manager running on another screen and played the game, i could see my gpu didn't get past like 50-70% and around 60c cpu was also at like 70%

I actually have a video i captured of it using my AVERMEDIA LGP Lite capture device. but i doubt i can upload it as upload speed is terrible

 

[Fma965]

I'm now leaving work to go home, i can try some stuff when i get home if you need me to

 

[SmokeDarKnight]

I've been googling it in the mean time, a lot of people saying that they are getting drops down to 30FPS.

I've also been having issues and im using 2 GTX 980's in SLI and im sitting with an average of about 58 fps so i feel that the game might not be as optimized as sites suggest. The intro for instance is such a small map its easy to get a good frame rate there.

Sorry i cannot be any more help, hopefully someone with a GTX980m laptop will respond and can maybe help trouble shoot with similar hardware.

 

[NilSatis]

I've been googling it in the mean time, a lot of people saying that they are getting drops down to 30FPS.

I've also been having issues and im using 2 GTX 980's in SLI and im sitting with an average of about 58 fps so i feel that the game might not be as optimized as sites suggest. The intro for instance is such a small map its easy to get a good frame rate there.

Sorry i cannot be any more help, hopefully someone with a GTX980m laptop will respond and can maybe help trouble shoot with similar hardware.

I dont have a 980m but I do have something you can try.

For the most part this game runs great for me, as it should for you, having said that there is definitely something a bit odd with this game. On my desktop pc I get 60fps constant (r9 290/2500k @4.6ghz) On the laptop which is not powerful at all, and only has a 2gb gpu (7970m but no switchable graphics crap) I can also get a smooth 60fps albeit with slightly lower settings; understandably. To do that, I have to use Radeon Pro or I get just the same problem as you, dips straight down to 30fps and back up and stuttering. I thought it was something to do with the games vsync but as you suggest, with it disabled it still does it. The game doesnt like mobile gpus I dont think.

Nvidia users can do this too....download Radeonpro, make a profile for GTAV and under tweaks; set vsync to be always on, and set the refresh rate to be double of your monitor. (this is evidence there is something weird with this game...if you set it to the correct refresh rate, fps gets capped at half that......for whatever reason by the game; so something is inbuilt in the game that messes with frame rates.) and keep vysnc in game off. This will achieve some odd figures on the osd at the start, but once you are in game you will see 120 fps on the top left (which is actually 60fps) assuming you run a 60mhz monitor and the game no longer stutters and drops frames. Why this is....I dont know.
To get Radeon pro to work without it crashing the game (evidence that the game detects hooks and doesn't like these either) you have to use some custom settings, this thread can help:

Radeon Pro GTA setup

So use those settings, but set refresh rate to 120hz for 60fps


Note that however on the R9 290 (and they both have the latest GTA driver installed) this same procedure makes the game run choppy, where without it, with just the game running, it runs absolutely flawlessly at 60fps all on ultra except the advanced settings and motion blur, which i hate. For that card I have to leave Radeon pro off and just run the game without anything. I also seemed to find the hooks that Afterburner and other monitoring software uses sometimes messes with the game too. Try it without using anything that hooks to the .exe. Apart from that; you have covered much of the other things, only other thing you can do is try it with an older Nvidia driver..or try disabling geforce experience too; just to cover that.

 

[NilSatis]

Also what refresh rate does it find for your monitor in the options? On my laptop it insisted it was 59hz whereas the desktop installation gets 60hz. As far as I know they are both 60hz. This can result in the vsync implemented by the game to get a bit confused and this is some of the reasoning behind using the above post to check stuff , even if it is hassle . Also, with vsync off this game isn't smooth on any system I have tried imo. You get tearing (slightly) and stuttering.

Good luck When you get it to run smoothly (and you will) its a great laugh. Try setting GTA V to high priority too, I think RadeonPro also allows you to do this or you can do it the manual way.

 

[Fma965]

Also what refresh rate does it find for your monitor in the options? On my laptop it insisted it was 59hz whereas the desktop installation gets 60hz. As far as I know they are both 60hz. This can result in the vsync implemented by the game to get a bit confused and this is some of the reasoning behind using the above post to check stuff , even if it is hassle . Also, with vsync off this game isn't smooth on any system I have tried imo. You get tearing (slightly) and stuttering.

Good luck When you get it to run smoothly (and you will) its a great laugh. Try setting GTA V to high priority too, I think RadeonPro also allows you to do this or you can do it the manual way.

Hi thansk for the help i shall try all the things you said, just wanted to reply quickly to say i appreciate your help i'll let you know my result shortly... oh and yeah it does show 59hz not 60hz

 

[micgup]

Can you use msi afterburner, and check to see what your GPU usage is? Does it stay at constant 99% or does it drop off when the fps take a dive?
I experienced this when I had the gpu set to 'adaptive' in Nvidia control panel. I then set it to run at max, and all my stutters were gone this was in dying light.
Example of my GPU usage while playing dying light:
View attachment 6636

 

[NilSatis]

Can you use msi afterburner, and check to see what your GPU usage is? Does it stay at constant 99% or does it drop off when the fps take a dive?
I experienced this when I had the gpu set to 'adaptive' in Nvidia control panel. I then set it to run at max, and all my stutters were gone this was in dying light.
Example of my GPU usage while playing dying light:
View attachment 6636

Good idea, defo try this too!

 

[Fma965]

Hi i have tried all that was mentioned but no luck, i notice that today my cpu usage gets to 100% then it lags down to 20-30fps then the cpu usage drops down to about 60-70 then the game runs at 50-60fps then cpu slowly rises and then repeats... any ideas why?

further to that my cpu clock speed drops from 3.4 to 1.65ghz then goes back up to about 2.5ghz then to 3.4 ghz again, the lag happens when that cpu drops clock speed... the question then becomes why does it do this? is it overheating? it's on a stand and risen up with plenty of air flow, is it a power issue? it's got a few things plugged in to usb but they are through a power hub.

Any further help would be great

Oh and here is a video...

[video=youtube;OD7k-ERMHkM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD7k-ERMHkM[/video]

 

[micgup]

Set afterburner to monitor cpu temps across the cores, and see if the temps get to high, it might be that the chip is throttling.
Intel XTU program is great for checking and monitoring for this, and if your cpu has the capability, you might be able to drop the core voltage slightly to reign in the temps.

Mick

 

[micgup]

Just watched your video, how come your gpu isn't running flat out, and GPU2 is doing some of the work? Here's a video I posted the other day in another thread of me playing dying light.
I have the octane laptop which has the 980m gpu (8gb) but no integrated gpu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWoQSOhVNEs

Mick

 

[Fma965]

i dunno, my GPU never ran flat out on this game, My cpu however seems to jump all over the place, I have dying light so can try that aswell. Not sure why my other GPU is being used thats slightly odd, maybe just chrome in the background?

Pretty hot??? not sure what intel i7 4720hq's should run at.

 

[Fma965]

Actually the GPU2 was probably my avermedia software as i had it set to other pc not same pc which means it shows a preview of the recording

 

[amoshi]

Does it only happen to GTA 5?

 

[Fma965]

Does it only happen to GTA 5?

I'm not sure, i have played dying light and haven't noticed it, i'm going to try dying light again and also the crew.