New gaming PC

[ARO]

Good Morning,

I am currently using a gaming laptop (4 years old now) and a ps4 to game and want to upgrade to a desktop.

I have a budget of max £2000 and would like to keep it under if possible. I want something that will be decent for a couple of years and be able to play the new releases such as cyber punk, new elder scrolls etc at a decent graphics setting.

The games i currently play are things like witcher, skyrim & fallout with mods along with some of the less impressive indie games.

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I currently use a tv as a monitor - shock horror and plan to possibly buy a monitor or two later on.

Television picture quality:

• LED TV Screen.
• 4K Ultra HD Certified display resolution.
• Motion rate 1300PQI.
• Resolution 3840 x 2160 pixels.

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I appreciate any discussion/advice you can offer.

Kind regards,

Ash

 

[Oussebon]

Maybe something like:

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY C BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X470-PLUS GAMING (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

Get Control & Wolfenstein: Young Blood w/ select GeForce RTX GPUs!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,929.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/FNfQEn6m4g/


A big chunk of the expense here is the GPU. A 2080 Super is okay for 4k. But a 2080 ti is better, and your TV doesn't have adaptive sync so keeping framerates up is a priority.

 

[ARO]

Thank-you for the reply,

Will this build be bullet proof for the next few years or will i need to upgrade parts by 2021?

Is there any reason to go for AMD of Intel apart from the price?

 

[Oussebon]

Will this build be bullet proof for the next few years or will i need to upgrade parts by 2021?

For the CPU and the RAM, it seems extremely unlikely that you'll need to upgrade either in 2 years for 4k gaming. Nobody's clairvoyant, but it seems like a pretty safe bet.

As for the graphics card, nobody can promise you anything there.

It's worth bearing in mind even the mighty 2080 ti isn't bulletproof today.

EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Super FTW 3 Ultra Review

The EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Super FTW3 Ultra comes with a large triple-slot, triple-fan cooling solution that includes the idle-fan-stop feature. Out of the box, the card is overclocked, and the power limit has been raised as well. In our testing, the FTW3 runs cooler than any other RTX 2080 Super...

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Some games and some settings will challenge it.

Also, enabling ray tracking in those few games that support it will challenge it.

And what if ray-tracing really takes off in games? How will a 2080 ti cope in 2 years with those?

Nobody in the world can tell you that.

Will do a separate post re AMD CPU...

 

[Oussebon]

Is there any reason to go for AMD of Intel apart from the price?

AMD is no longer the budget option.

Both Intel and AMD have CPUs at the same prices. The question is, which is a better choice at the price level you're shopping at?

For 4k gaming, the CPU is almost never what limits your performance. You're going to be pretty much entirely GPU-bound. Which is fine, that's what you expect in PC gaming.

See:

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Review

Ryzen 5 3600 is the most affordable Zen 2 processor in AMD's lineup. At just $200, it offers six cores and twelve threads, yielding a significant advantage in applications against the competition from Intel. Gaming performance is also improved nicely as it is around 10% higher than with previous...

www.techpowerup.com

So leaving Intel vs AMD aside, you can see there's almost no performance difference overall between a £200 Intel CPU and a £500 Intel CPU. Same goes for AMD.

Therefore, you want to prioritise spending on the GPU (and an otherwise balanced, upgradable system) over the CPU. This leaves you shopping for a ~£200 CPU instead of a £500 CPU for gaming.

So you're asking yourself if you want an AMD R5 3600 or an Intel i5 9400F (ish).

The AMD CPU performs about the same. A little better according to that chart, but it's so small we'll call it about the same. It has 12 threads instead of the Intel CPU's 6, likely making it more futureproof, in a similar way to my 4C/8T CPU having aged better than a 4C/4T CPU from the same year. The AMD motherboards may support more future CPU options; the Intel boards almost certainly won't.