New Gaming PC

[hitman2195]

Hi guys I have been putting off upgrading my rig due to gpu shortages but have a custom build base off some of the posts you have made recently. I have a few questions regarding the following build.

The rig will be used mostly for game/light streaming and I play at 1440p on a Samsung Odyssey g7.

1. Is there much difference between the GPUs ie the standard 3070 the Tuf 3070 and the Rog 3070 (other than price)
2. Should I try to match the motherboard with same GPU make?
3. Is it worth spending more money on the case?
4. Anything you would change?
5. Is it worth waiting longer due to new gpus/cpus or even until there's more available?

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £2,533.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[JUNI0R]

Hi guys I have been putting off upgrading my rig due to gpu shortages but have a custom build base off some of the posts you have made recently. I have a few questions regarding the following build.

The rig will be used mostly for game/light streaming and I play at 1440p on a Samsung Odyssey g7.

1. Is there much difference between the GPUs ie the standard 3070 the Tuf 3070 and the Rog 3070 (other than price)
2. Should I try to match the motherboard with same GPU make?
3. Is it worth spending more money on the case?
4. Anything you would change?
5. Is it worth waiting longer due to new gpus/cpus or even until there's more available?

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £2,533.00 including VAT and Delivery

Hey there! This looks like a solid build so I'll answer some of your questions then get to anything I'd swap, although it looks like you've been doing your research!

1) Brand name is basically the main difference aside from price. All 3070's will perform effectively the same as all other 3070's unless they've been OC'd from factory. There might be a small difference in temps depending on how each brand decides to cool their card, but nothing significant. Going for a 'brand name' GPU, ie STRIX or TUF will cost more and likely increase the wait as PCS have to get their hands on a specific card. Unless you're specifically after one of those GPU's, I'd stick to the standard one, which will still be a Gigabyte, Zotac or Palit branded card.

2) Nope! You don't need to do this, they won't perform any better, you could have every part of your PC from a different company and it'll still perform just fine. There's the asthetics side to it, ie STRIX Mobo and STRIX GPU would look very cool, but it wouldn't affect functionality if they're from different brands

3) The TD500 Mesh is a lovely case, if you like it I see no reason to change from it, it's got a full mesh front for good airflow and 3 included fans. You could go for the Corsair 5000D, but you'd have to add extra fans and the Corsair 5000X is currently out of stock

4) I'll come back to this

5) It depends a little on what this is in reference to. If it's due to the GPU shortages, if you're able to upgrade now and are aware it'll cost you more and are happy to accept that, I'd go for it, if you'd rather wait, you could be waiting a long time. I've heard rumours of Summer NEXT year before this situation starts to clear so we could be in it for the long haul. For new products, there's rumoured to be a 3070TI come out soon, so you could wait for that, although your monitor and GPU pairing is perfectly good as it is. On the CPU side of things, AM5 is rumoured to be coming next year which would carry you into a completly new generation of AMD CPU and will mean you're able to upgrade your CPU for longer as they're changing the design of the socket. That's about all I know, but I'm sure other members would be happy to elaborate further if you wanted.


Back to question 4. Simply put you have a pretty fantastic build here. I think the only question I have is around your CPU choice. Yes, the 5900X is a beast of a CPU, but it simply doesn't really gain anything for the ~£200 extra in terms of gaming performance as games are still GPU bound instead of CPU bound. Swapping to the 5800X will still give you incredible performance and ample power to stream at the same time. That's my 2 cents on the topic, but others might disagree. One thing to say is if you decide to stick with the 5900X, I'd upgrade to the STRIX X570 board for it's stronger VRM's.

Sorry for the super long and super wordy message but I hope it was all helpful!

 

[hitman2195]

Fantastic reply, very much answered all of the questions I had.

I really like the build the only thing that has stopped me pulling the trigger is the fear I do and then something better comes along which I suppose is always going to happen no matter when I do it.

I think I heard about the 3070TI but I'm not sure on release date and how it will compare to the regular 3070.

In your opinion if wait time wasn't an issue how would you rank the 3 gpus standard 3070 the Tuf and Rog strix?

 

[JUNI0R]

Fantastic reply, very much answered all of the questions I had.

I really like the build the only thing that has stopped me pulling the trigger is the fear I do and then something better comes along which I suppose is always going to happen no matter when I do it.

I think I heard about the 3070TI but I'm not sure on release date and how it will compare to the regular 3070.

In your opinion if wait time wasn't an issue how would you rank the 3 gpus standard 3070 the Tuf and Rog strix?

Happy to hear!

That will always be an issue to be honest. Tech is evolving so quickly these days that the next generation is only a year away. If you were to keep that mindset, you'd just never end up buying anything 😂

I haven't heard too much about it or where it'll rank in comparison but I've heard it'll be coming pretty soon, just to put a spanner in the works. It'll also be an LHR card meaning it'll be bad for mining so hopefully demand is lower meaning waits are shorter and prices are better. That said, that's really just hopes and speculation.

Interesting question. I'd have to go STRIX first, I have a soft spot for that card and is definetly my favourite out of all the 30 series cards. Then I guess the 'standard' options then TUF? I don't think the TUF is especially pretty. But it's also worth realising that the waits are real and the price increase these special cards do exist and that's where it becomes a little more difficult. At the end of the day, unless you specifically want a particular card or have had a bad experience with X brand and want to avoid them for example, the standard option will be perfectly fine, will be the cheapest and arrive the quickest, although from what I've heard the STRIX 3070 wait times haven't been that far behind the standard 3070.

 

[sck451]

I'd suggest ordering now as you'll have at the least 7-10 days' waiting time, so you might as well get in the queue. Any tweaking (and honestly there won't be much: fabulous build!) can be doing after the order is made.

I'd agree with @JUNI0R in every detail (except that I'd agree with your choice of 5900X if you have the £££ for it: it's a superior chip in several ways). I'd go for the standard option on the graphics card as well, unless you want to get the pretty one and don't mind the money.

It looks like the 3070 Ti announcement will be on Monday, by the way, with it on sale probably on 10 June. Given that the G7 is kind of stupid (in the good way) with its 240Hz refresh rate, I personally would go for that one (again, if I had the cash going spare -- it certainly isn't necessary).