When is it a good time to buy a pc? wwill parts get cheaper soon?

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buvvv7

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Martinr36

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AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk
 
i_Ary

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buvvv7 said:
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ASUS® PRIME Z490-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready
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16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
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6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
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250GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
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1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
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250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
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Change the CPU to an AMD CPU. Check Martin’s post on why I advise that.
 
MrWilson

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As stated above, an AMD build would suit you better than Intel at the moment.
To help us make other adjustments please could you let us know the following:
What is your budget?
What are the uses for your PC? e.g Gaming, streaming, photoshop, rendering etc
What monitor do you have? Make/model or resolution and refresh rate would be handy to know.
 
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buvvv7

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MrWilson said:
As stated above, an AMD build would suit you better than Intel at the moment.
To help us make other adjustments please could you let us know the following:
What is your budget?
What are the uses for your PC? e.g Gaming, streaming, photoshop, rendering etc
What monitor do you have? Make/model or resolution and refresh rate would be handy to know.
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my bdget is 1k and mainly going to use it for gaming i dont have a monitor
 
Martinr36

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buvvv7 said:
my bdget is 1k and mainly going to use it for gaming i dont have a monitor
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Does that 1K budget include the monitor then?
If so you would be better off saving more money, even if you have a separate budget for monitor & the other peripherals required, you are going to be struggling to build a system that will last, as PC components are at an all time high price wise at the moment.
 
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6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
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That’s as about as cheap as I can make a solid build which gives you an upgrade path which I would recommend for 1080p 144hz gaming at the moment. Ideally it will be worth paying the £90 extra and getting the 5600x

unfortunately it’s not a good buyers market atm with components costing more than normal
 
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buvvv7

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Martinr36 said:
Does that 1K budget include the monitor then?
If so you would be better off saving more money, even if you have a separate budget for monitor & the other peripherals required, you are going to be struggling to build a system that will last, as PC components are at an all time high price wise at the moment.
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budget doesnt include monitor my bbudget for monitor is 250 mainly want to use pc to play gta 5 forza and call of duty mw
 
Citrus_9

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buvvv7 said:
budget doesnt include monitor my bbudget for monitor is 250 mainly want to use pc to play gta 5 forza and call of duty mw
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Resistance100 did a very good work making a solid build for your needs, creating a good path for future upgrades and also fitting in the budget (more or less). You'll get a great performance for this money.
 
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buvvv7

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Citrus_9 said:
Resistance100 did a very good work making a solid build for your needs, creating a good path for future upgrades and also fitting in the budget (more or less). You'll get any monitor suggestions?
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Resistance100 said:
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6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
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STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
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That’s as about as cheap as I can make a solid build which gives you an upgrade path which I would recommend for 1080p 144hz gaming at the moment. Ideally it will be worth paying the £90 extra and getting the 5600x

unfortunately it’s not a good buyers market atm with components costing more than normal
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why does it need 850w power supply?? is 450 enough??
 
JUNI0R

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buvvv7 said:
why does it need 850w power supply?? is 450 enough??
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Because you don't want to have your PSU running at near 100% capacity for it's entire life, it's less safe and shortens the life of it a lot. Plus going for a higher wattage Power Supply means you have more space to upgrade. For example, if you wanted to upgrade your graphics card, you'd probably need to upgrade your PSU too (spending the money now = a £65 upgrade, Replacing your PSU down the line, for one you'd want £125) Short term spend = long term save
 
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mainly willl use pc for forza mw and gta 5

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MrWilson

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Hey,
Looking at the price on the new build, have you managed to stretch your budget a little? Looking back it seems that you had a 1k budget previously which obviously we're pushing past quite a bit now!
The Asus 2060 is not worth it; it costs more than the 3060 so would advise going with the 3060, or seeing if you can self a 2060 or 1660 super to keep costs down.
The TUF motherboard is worth it over the Prime; I wouldn't use the Prime for anything other than a basic office PC.
Boost the wireless card to the AX200, or ditch it completely if you have an ethernet connection.
Ditch Bullguard as it's known to cause issues and Windows Defender does the job nicely.
 
MrWilson

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Nursemorph said:
The 3060 is about £70 more
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Oh that's my mistake, I do remember that when PCS added the ASUS 2060 in a week or so ago it was more expensive than the 3060, looks like it's normalised a bit now. That being said I still wouldn't recommend the ASUS 2060; budget depending you should either look at the 3060 or if budget is more constraining try and source a 2060 or 1660 super elsewhere.
 
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I see you have now moved up to a 3070 for the GPU. Have you upgraded to a high spec 1440p monitor now? A 3070 is overkill for 1080p and a waste of money. For WiFi you really need the AX200, as this is much more recent, has access to 5GHz and includes Bluetooth. Bullguard is known to cause problems and should be removed.

Some on here would recommend additional cooling for the 5600x, while others might be happy with the stock cooler. I have a different CPU with AIO, so can’t offer a definitive opinion here.
 
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