Connecting to 5ghz

BlessedSquirrel

We love you Ukraine
I'm under the impression that the wifi extender can either boost the 5ghz or 2.4ghz signal and the ethernet cable then takes that signal from the extender to the computer. Am I completely wrong in that assumption?
Yes. You’re not using WiFi. So you’re not connected to a WiFi band.

You’re connected via Ethernet to a WiFi booster that is boosting a network signal.

Weather or not you’re connected to 2.4ghz or 5ghz, it’s still the same network. It’s just a way of managing access rights and traffic. But that’s only relevant in WiFi.

Which you’re not using.
 

Bhuna50

Author Level
Are you experiencing any issues or problems that makes you think that this is a concern?

If it all works then what else are you trying to achieve that makes you think that this is the problem?


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kozuki

Enthusiast
simply check your internet speed as it is now with speedtest.net and see if it's the same as on your internet provider's contract
 

BlessedSquirrel

We love you Ukraine
I think there’s a misunderstanding of what WiFi bands are. 2.4ghz is an older standard. The lower the frequency, the further the transmission but at lower speeds. 5ghz is more modern and transmits at far faster rates but can’t penetrate walls as well and doesn’t travel as far.

Most 5ghz devices transmit both 2.4 and 5ghz in tandem to cover a broader range whilst delivering much higher speeds where possible.

Also, a lot of older devices and IOT devices are only compatible with 2.4ghz.

Unless you’ve done something very specific with the configuration of the network and actually created separate networks along each Channel, then both the 2.4 and 5ghz will be transmitting the same network, just at different frequencies. If you have split the network, then I trust you understand how to configure your pc on the subnet relevant to each network and you’d be able to communicate your requirements.

It’s like the difference between bass and treble in music. It’s the same music, just different frequencies.

You are not using WiFi, so you’re simply connecting to a range booster that’s boosting your network.
 

EliHut

Member
I assumed that there was an issue with the extender and the ethernet cable as I normally get 30-40mbps download with an ethernet cable on my PS4 however with the PC I am getting 10-12mbps download speed with 80+ms ping. These two things made me think that there was a way to speed up the connection that I was getting via the ethernet cable. This assumption combined with forgetting basic computer science facts that I learn 5+ years ago led to confusion. Thank you all for your help.
 

BlessedSquirrel

We love you Ukraine
I assumed that there was an issue with the extender and the ethernet cable as I normally get 30-40mbps download with an ethernet cable on my PS4 however with the PC I am getting 10-12mbps download speed with 80+ms ping. These two things made me think that there was a way to speed up the connection that I was getting via the ethernet cable. This assumption combined with forgetting basic computer science facts that I learn 5+ years ago led to confusion. Thank you all for your help.
A booster is simply boosting the signal it receives. If it's a weak signal, then it will boost that weak signal.

This is why boosters and extenders are a poor thing by todays standards and wireless mesh is far better.

If you need a strong wireless signal to a remote part that the router can't serve, I'd strongly recommend investing in a mesh setup.
 

Gavras

Master Poster
I assumed that there was an issue with the extender and the ethernet cable as I normally get 30-40mbps download with an ethernet cable on my PS4 however with the PC I am getting 10-12mbps download speed with 80+ms ping. These two things made me think that there was a way to speed up the connection that I was getting via the ethernet cable. This assumption combined with forgetting basic computer science facts that I learn 5+ years ago led to confusion. Thank you all for your help.
As has been explained, when you connect a device via a modern good quality LAN cable to another device such as WiFi extender, a hub or router, you are basically at full flow, nothing really to do to speed up or slow down.

once you hit the WiFi extender you are then at the mercy of its place within your WiFi network and it will need to contend with any other device using the WiFi network or the WiFi extender.

If it has 2.4 ghz and 5GHZ it would be nice to assume it allocates devices accordingly, this is not always the case.

Also things like extenders / boosters not only boost signal but also noise.

finally, there is a big difference between a PC and a console on what is going up and down that Lan cable and over the WiFi, these other ‘services’ will also change just how a Pc connects to how a console connects.

yes things can be tweaked a little but it greatly depends on what else is sitting eating up WiFi pie.
 

Bhuna50

Author Level
80+ ping...I think you need to contact your service provider

Before doing this connect directly to your main router / the Virginmedia hub with the Ethernet cable and run Speedtest.

If it’s still low download speeds and high ping then there could be an issue with your service.

If not then @SpyderTracks suggestion re WiFi mesh is the way to go as obviously your WiFi extender is picking up a weak signal anyway.


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ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
The problem with a weak WiFi signal is that when you 'boost' the signal you also boost the radio noise. Separating noise from signal can be tricky.

Most data packets are checked for errors on receipt (TCP packers are, UDP packets aren't). If your WiFi extender corrupts the packet because of excessive noise then your PC's network stack will request retransmission. Having to resend packets severely reduces your apparent data rate.

The weak link in your PC's connection to the router is the WiFi link. You may do better with a better wireless setup. @SpyderTracks is your best source of advice there. :)
 

Gavras

Master Poster
The problem with a weak WiFi signal is that when you 'boost' the signal you also boost the radio noise. Separating noise from signal can be tricky.

Most data packets are checked for errors on receipt (TCP packers are, UXP packets aren't). If you WiFi extender corrupts the packet because if excessive noise then your PC's network stack will request retransmission. Having to resend packets severely reduces your apparent data rate.

The weak link in your PC's connection to the router is the WiFi link. You may do better with a better wireless setup. @SpyderTracks is your best sour e if advice there. :)
Is this why they use CAT cables, to sort out the Mouse.

beat me to the exit lol 😂
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Is this why they use CAT cables, do sort out the Mouse.

beat me to the exit lol [emoji23]
Ha! I'm using Tapatalk on a phone with a miniscule keyboard and fat fingers. And that's before productive tixt gets in on the act! I think I did pretty well to be honest! :)
 

Gavras

Master Poster
Ha. I'm using Tapatalk on phone with a miniscule keyboard and fat fingers. And that's before productive tixt gets in on the act! I think I did pretty well to be honest! :)
Trust me I know the feeling, bad eye sight and fat fingers often means for some erm interesting posts / texts, then throw in autocorrect.

@EliHut once you have sorted some basics over your broadband and if you are getting decent service or not, it really is worth investing in a decent Trivandrum (leaving that it in, as its auto correct of Tri-Band) Mesh setup, these are far better than boosters, extenders or power line adapters.

You can go Dual Band but lose out on back channel. Tri-band gives back channel.

You can still use Lan cable with most and get benefit of a cleaner, faster and more efficient / managed service.
 
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