defianceX 17 vs elimina-pro-16: Which is better

VarAgr

Active member

I can't seem to decide between these two. Everything is pretty much the same in them.

Which one is better and how?
 

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Hello, sorry for the delay.

To answer your question, it depends XD
It depends what you'll do with it
So, if you tell us that, we may help you better

(the elimina has a better resolution, but a less powerfull gpu, the defiance has the opposite, so ...)

this being said, both of them have a chassis made by clevo, that i think is a little bit better than the tongfang one, so it's a good choice ^^
 

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Again, it depends of the laptop generation (the previous elimina pro was a tongfang, but this one is a clevo)
So, if you are not really interested in the screen, i'd go for the defiance, i think it will have a more "punch".
The cpu are the same, but the gpu will have more juice.

but if you need something more portable, maybe the elimina is better.

it's hard to help with so little information from you.
(like budget, uses, mobility, will it be coupled with external monitor, any information that may help us to help you to configure your laptop ^^)

But, in any case, this is what i'd recommend for the two chassis
-2 ssd, one for the os, the most used software and file (i'd go for the samsung 980pro, be it 500go or 1to) and a second one for stockage (at least 1to, and i'd go for the samsung 970)
- take as much ram you may need, but choose a pair instead of one stick (it's better) and take the fastest one you can afford (like 32go at 3200MHz)
- take the gpu you need ^^
- take the better thermal paste
- you may want to take win10 if the software you use are not fully optimised for win11
- take the dead pixel guarantee (i'd go for the 1 year) and at least the silver (or better, the gold) warranty
 

VarAgr

Active member
Got it. Maybe the person who told me it was tongfang was confused.

I need portability but my laptop bag is rated for 17" laptops, so hopefully, it will be fine.

I don't want to add too many details to create confusion. 1920*1080 resolution is fine. Both of them support external 4K monitor/TV, so that's not a problem either.

I think 17" is slightly bigger and will have better ventilation which means better CPU performance?


The most important thing for me is CPU performance (don't really care about GPU) and durability.
 

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Got it. Maybe the person who told me it was tongfang was confused.
Well, as i said, last year, the elimina pro was a tongfang, so it's not wrong, just not up to date :D
I need portability but my laptop bag is rated for 17" laptops, so hopefully, it will be fine.
you can check the exact size of the chassis on the "detailed specification" page
I think 17" is slightly bigger and will have better ventilation which means better CPU performance?
yep, exactly ^^

so, with this in mind, i propose you this (as you didn't gave me your budget or detailed uses ^^)

(oh, and i assumed that you're from united kingdom mainland, but feel free to set the right parameter for the delivery, the os language and keyboard ^^)

Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 17.3" Matte, Full HD, 144Hz, Pantone Validated 72% NTSC, LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 14 Core Processor 12700H (4.7GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
Defiance Series Integrated 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (80WH)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 4 PORT + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo PD70PNP (6GB RTX-3060, i7-12700H, AX201, 144Hz N7 PANTONE, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,789.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/defianceX-17/xakGQZr8d7/
 

Tron1982

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Be carefull, as i'm from France, it may be some strange ... things ^^"
so, double check everything ^^

and, you're welcome ^^
 
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