More Options For Advanced Fan/Air CPU Coolers

[Jaymee-Nausica]

Hey All

I recently noticed PCS removed an option for an Advanced Fan CPU cooler known as the Spire Thermax Gemini Rev.2.

& has instead replaced it with a Corsair H40 Hydro Liquid Cooling option.

Now although Liquid cooling is great, its not an option that all take preference to. Now, I only noticed this 10minutes ago so I don't want to be too fast, as this may well be due to stock running out, and maybe PCS are getting new deliveries of this product soon. But, if that is not the case, I think it should still remain in the configuration as a possible option to choose from so there is just as much variety for Fan/Air CPU Cooling as there is liquid cooling options, otherwise your only left to choose the Titan triple Copper heat pipe as the only advanced CPU cooler.

PS# I was going to order my rig with the Spire Thermax Gemini inside, but now its gone, this is why i posted this thread. #Opinions...?

 

[Grimezy]

Are you planning to overclock your CPU? If not the triple copper heatpipe should be more than sufficient enough for a stock CPU.

I believe the spire was kind of sat on the fence in the sense that it was a bit overkill for a non-overclocked machine but not as a favourable as liquid cooling for an overclocked rig. Could be why they've taken it out due to lack of orders? Or it could be out of stock but I doubt they'd take it off the website if that was the case.

 

[Jaymee-Nausica]

@Grimezy Yeah, thats true for some OC's, But im sure I have seen in posts with pictures included people having the Spire inside their Rig and intended to OC their CPU. It really does come down to personal preference i think. Some people still don't prefer to have liquid coolers inside their Rig due to Leaks in the past, following warranty problems for damaged goods, hassle etc etc. So alota people opt for Fans instead as a secure and safer option. Im not knocking liquid cooling by the way at all, its great, just not for all.

PS# No, im most likely just getting the i5-3570, same as you as I can see. But i just heard in posts that the Titan was very loud, and Spec comparison via their websites showed the Spire to be quieter.

 

[keynes]

If you are planning to get the i5-3570 I'd stick with the triple copper heatpipe. I have a coolit liquid cooler and I have never experienced an issue but for peace of mind I went with platinum warranty to cover parts for 3 years.

 

[Grimezy]

PS# No, im most likely just getting the i5-3570, same as you as I can see. But i just heard in posts that the Titan was very loud, and Spec comparison via their websites showed the Spire to be quieter.

I have the triple copper heatpipe and it's absolutely fine noise wise. I have it in a Coolermaster CM690 II Advanced which could be why I don't really hear it but when fans are running at standard speeds I barely hear it. I'm not very clued up on cooling and rely on ASUS suite to 'tune' my fan speeds and I just change it between 'standard' and 'turbo' mode (pretty sure the only difference is turbo turns my top fan on!) and then I blast it on full speed sometimes just to clear the dust a bit. Obviously they're noisy on full speed but on standard and turbo I barely hear it at all

 

[Rakk]

I don't think this thread actually had anything to do with the OP's spec, it was more the fact he felt there should be a air-cooler option above the super quiet one, just because some people just don't trust water cooling and want air-cooling that is better than the super-quiet one.

And yes, I agree, and am not sure what's happened to the Spire, possibly its an error, or indeed they are out of stock and aren't expecting anymore in for a while (they only tend to take stuff out of the list when out-of-stock only if its going to be a while before they get mroe stock in, otherwise people complain that they shouldve been informed that it wouldnt be in for a while)

 

[Jaymee-Nausica]

@Keynes, I hear that, but not everybody wants to pay £135 for a warranty, for something that to be quite honest, shouldn't really be bursting/leaking on you anyway. I know that there is odd chances that things are sometimes faulty etc, which is rare and unfortunate, but overall people shouldn't feel that they have to opt for a really expensive warranty just because they are choosing liquid cooling options, if you get me. Just my opinion.

@Rakk Yes, its exactly what i meant, Its not just personal preference, as other mite feel the same too and have the same preference.

# Well, I guess I mite have to just choose the Titan now, unless PCS put up another beefy looking Fan Cooler as an option!

EDIT << For example, the Titan Triple Copper is £19 and before the Spire was available it was the Titan Fenrir Evo at £39

Now, both of those were single Fan advanced CPU coolers, But, I am quite certain that many chose to have the more expensive Fenrir CPU cooler over the Titan triple copper.

 

[Grimezy]

I don't think this thread actually had anything to do with the OP's spec, it was more the fact he felt there should be a air-cooler option above the super quiet one, just because some people just don't trust water cooling and want air-cooling that is better than the super-quiet one.

And yes, I agree, and am not sure what's happened to the Spire, possibly its an error, or indeed they are out of stock and aren't expecting anymore in for a while (they only tend to take stuff out of the list when out-of-stock only if its going to be a while before they get mroe stock in, otherwise people complain that they shouldve been informed that it wouldnt be in for a while)

I think you're right Rakk but he was saying that he was about to order his rig with the Spire on it and we just thought we'd advise him that the spire wasn't crucial for a stock CPU. Sorry x) I do agree that perhaps there should be more options for air cooling but at the same time I like the limited choice because it means I don't have to worry about making a decision on another component. Yes it's nice to have options for like different cases, Hard drives, GPU's, etc but when it comes to CPU cooling I don't want to be sprawling through 5 different products reviews to see which is the best for my rig. It's quite nice being able to choose one that experts recommend using. Plus you have to think that PCS must order CPU coolers in bulk so the more products they put on range the more money they'd have to spend sustaining stock for all products and would require more effort keeping all the stock levels up for such a similiar product.

You have to look at it from the point that PCS will only want to order what they're going to sell and that if you really want to customise every part to what suits you that building your own would probably be the better option. PCS probably have to limit their stock range to keep costs down and keep build times down.

 

[keynes]

@Keynes, I hear that, but not everybody wants to pay £135 for a warranty, for something that to be quite honest, shouldn't really be bursting/leaking on you anyway. I know that there is odd chances that things are sometimes faulty etc, which is rare and unfortunate, but overall people shouldn't feel that they have to opt for a really expensive warranty just because they are choosing liquid cooling options, if you get me. Just my opinion.

I didn't mean to say you are forced to upgrade because you have chosen a liquid cooling cpu, I am comfortable with it and I am confident it should be fine without leaks but I am quite risk averse

 

[PCS]

To clarify - we are now launching a full range of Corsair liquid coolers:

H40
h60
H80
H100

The H40 cooler is much better at cooling that the Spire cooler, runs quieter and allows for a better airflow. The COrsair Hydro series coolers are also perfect for overclockers.

 

[tom_gr7]

Are these going to be the new "I" versions?

What about the NZXT 140mm coolers? any thoughts?

 

[NMEBowen]

The corsair H series are good but as i posted in other threads be carefull when going into the corsair link stuff as the I series have this. Its a total nightmare atm and i can see you having alot of issues with it id stick with the non i versions if i were pcs untill the link software actually works properly.

 

[PCS]

We are not going to be launching any Corsair link CPU coolers anytime soon...

 

[NMEBowen]

il let you know when it actually works the majority of the issues with it are due to asus boards and sadly thats pretty much all you stock.

 

[PCS]

What about the NZXT 140mm coolers? any thoughts?

We are not planning to launch any new air based coolers at present. We were expecting customers to be extremely enthusiastic about the H40 for £39 - it's a great product at a great price. It also significantly reduces the risk of a system arriving to you DOA due to a huge heavy fan that could potentiall fall off during transit.

 

[tom_gr7]

We are not planning to launch any new air based coolers at present. We were expecting customers to be extremely enthusiastic about the H40 for £39 - it's a great product at a great price. It also significantly reduces the risk of a system arriving to you DOA due to a huge heavy fan that could potentiall fall off during transit.

erm, the nzxt coolers are 140mm liquid coolers.... http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/cpu_cooler/kraken_x40

so a slightly larger rad than 120mm versions...

 

[PCS]

The NZXT coolers are manufactured by Asetek and are similar to the Thermaltake models - just re-branded. The Corsair models are re-branded CoolIT products, a company that we have been working with for many years and who we believe is the best manufacturer of liquid cooling solutions.

 

[tom_gr7]

The NZXT coolers are manufactured by Asetek and are similar to the Thermaltake models - just re-branded. The Corsair models are re-branded CoolIT products, a company that we have been working with for many years and who we believe is the best manufacturer of liquid cooling solutions.

thats fair enough, lol i doubt coolit and corsair would be impressed if you started stocking competitors hardware.

 

[Karlos]

CoolIT Vantage Advanced Liquid Cooler



?????

 

[PCS]

CoolIT Vantage Advanced Liquid Cooler?????

Unfortunately this cooler was discontinued a few years ago...