Unfortunate experience

hopkins

Active member
I'm going to try to be as neutral as possible here, as PC Specialist still has time to redeem itself. I'll try to explain as factually as possible what my experience of PC Specialist has been. Unfortunately, those facts will likely make this post sound negative. I would be very interested to hear from other forum users about what they think of my situation - whether it is typical or unusual, how I have behaved, and how PC Specialist has behaved.

I ordered a 15.6" UltraNote II as I wanted a portable computer for my studies (I am a first year student at university). The first day I got my laptop I was very pleased. I bought a protective case to carry it in. After I came back from university having taken it in for the first time, I booted it and found a group of grey lines had appeared down the left side of the screen. I was mortified of course, and looked up the symptom. I found it is frequently caused by bumping your laptop. I blamed myself at first - I couldn't remember bumping it and had bought the case and packed my back carefully to avoid that. I could however make the lines go away by applying slight pressure from the back.

Nonetheless, almost every time I brought the laptop with me to school, the same lines appeared. I was even trying to be more careful with it than when it was brand new. When they appeared didn't seem to correlate with how the laptop had been moved around - when I was packed into an overcrowded train I felt concerned about it, as my bag was being squashed and pushed about. No lines appeared on it that day. Soon they started to appear on both sides of the screen until a permanent line appeared on the right. So I contacted PC Specialist, satisfied that the screen was faulty and it wasn't due to my carelessness. They agreed to repair it. (Luckily I bought the silver warranty.)

This took about a month. On Christmas eve, my laptop arrived. A note was inside saying that due to them being out of stock of my original model of screen, I was upgraded to a full HD version. I was delighted of course. I switched it on and tried to enter my password. Many keys didn't work while some did. This prevented me from looking at anything other than the TrueCrypt bootloader, which is not particularly interesting even in HD.

Now, I'd have thought that they would at least try switching it on and pressing some keys to see if it was OK. To go a month without the laptop that I paid for is very frustrating and disheartening - not to mention an impediment for my studies.

If PC Specialist had repaired my laptop properly, I'd have happily left them a 5 star review thanks to the upgraded screen. However, the outrageous negligence of breaking my keyboard nullifies that.

I have requested on 27th December that PC Specialist upgrade me to a Cosmos II model, as I would feel scammed to be honest to have gone through all this hassle and have nothing to show for it other than the laptop I paid for in November. They have not yet responded. I will be extremely disappointed if they do not do enough to make up for this.

Is this scattiness typical of PC Specialist? What do you think they should to make up for it? Am I being unreasonable here?

RMA number: 18975
Order number: 598799
 

keynes

Multiverse Poster
I sympathise and I hope PCS get it sorted. However I don't think an upgrade is something you are entitle to, the damage is likely to have been caused in transit. If PCS starts offering free upgrades for any issue they probably go out of business soon. They might agree but I don't think it is something you need to take for granted.
 

hopkins

Active member
Thanks for the response Keynes. I agree that it may have happened in transit but it was packaged well and I can't imagine what could cause some keys to work and not others through all that cardboard and polystyrene. It seems more likely to have been caused while working on the machine though I'm not technical.
 

Boozad

Prolific Poster
My advice would be to give them a call and talk it over, much better than emailing and messaging.

0844 499 4000 - View call waiting times: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/call-waiting/

As Keynes said, as unfortunate as this is I don't think an upgrade is a realistic resolution. December was also an unfortunate time fro an RMA as PCS are extremely busy, but they will see you right. Give them a call and let us know how you go.
 

hopkins

Active member
Unrealistic maybe but I'd say fair. Whoever owns pcs probably has more money than I will ever see in my life, so if they screw me over they should make it worth my while. The first fault is understandable and I bought a warranty because of that, but the second?

Thank you for the advice. Calling them is a good idea.
 

mantadog

Superhero Level Poster
To be fair you are at least putting forward an apparently truthful fact based version of events so far which is more than many of the complaints here manage.

You seem happy enough with the laptop as a machine but slightly miffed at the long turnaround time for the repair + the damaged keys, which is understandable.

I think the long delay was probably caused by lack of spare parts hence the upgrade and the damage keys most probably happened in transit. Since you received delivery on Christmas eve I have the image in my head of the courier driver loading his van like something out of the 2012 Olympic shot put final in an effort to get finished for Christmas. Most damage is caused in transit, its just a fact. That's not to say the damage did happen in transit but it probably did, much the same goes for the original screen fault too.

Is this typical of PCS? I think it most certainly IS, they replaced your screen under warranty, even though under your own admission, that fault is often caused by rough handling by the user, not only that but they upgraded the screen for you due to stock issues. I bet many companies would have told you to get on your bike with a story like that "nah mate not covered under warranty, your own fault for being rough with it"... As far as the keys go, hard to say maybe they did damage something I couldn't possibly say if they did or not. But I bet if you ask for a 2nd RMA they will happily get it sorted for you.

Obviously not ideal to be without your laptop for uni, but asking for an upgrade probably isn't going to wash. The people who own PCS may very well have a decent cash pile but fi they gave everyone who has problems a free upgrade they most certainly would not. So like the others I cant see a free upgrade happening, but they will get it sorted for you one way or the other.

let us know how you get on.
 

PaulH

Bright Spark
Hello Hopkins,

Can I first start by saying thank you for making the post informative and constructive - it is appreciated.

Secondly, I can guarantee that the keyboard was indeed working when it left ourselves, in 99% of cases of this kind it is down to a slightly loose ribbon cable from the keyboard to the motherboard, sadly we have seen these rattle free and lose contact simply from vibrations of the transit they have to go through in order to get to you.

I do apologise that you have had the inconvenience of returns also.

You have a few options in this situation, we can, if you are willing, walk you through refitting the keyboard and re-seating the ribbon cable - this will more than likely solve your problem, if not, and you are not comfortable doing this we can bring the laptop back to us and do that for you.

Obviously it is not ideal when things like this happen, and it is obvious we do not intend for people to have problems with their machines, that would just be counter productive.

Please PM me with what you would like to do in regards to this, I will gladly help - we cannot however upgrade you free of charge to a new laptop chassis, if however the chassis you have is in a re-saleable condition I would be happy to swap any components into the chassis you want, for the cost difference of the chassis itself, no labour charges etc.

Paul
 

hopkins

Active member
I have sent you a PM about it, PaulH. Thanks for being patient and understanding.

I'll let you all know how it pans out. Thanks for the input everyone!
 

hopkins

Active member
Quick update:

The fault has been found and corrected and the laptop has to be tested still. PaulH has not responded to my PM nor has the complaints department responded to the complaint I sent on the 27th Dec. Not impressive.

At this rate it looks like the laptop could be dispatched without any of the upgrades we discussed being fitted, even though I said I may be interested in paying for them. If this is the case I will probably leave the negative reviews I promised PCS.
 

keynes

Multiverse Poster
Quick update:

The fault has been found and corrected and the laptop has to be tested still. PaulH has not responded to my PM nor has the complaints department responded to the complaint I sent on the 27th Dec. Not impressive.

At this rate it looks like the laptop could be dispatched without any of the upgrades we discussed being fitted, even though I said I may be interested in paying for them. If this is the case I will probably leave the negative reviews I promised PCS.

Did PCS agree to upgrade the chassis? Or was it based on what it was indicated before? Saleable condition.
 

hopkins

Active member
I'm not sure because all that's been said about this is what's in this thread. If it has been rejected on those grounds nobody has told me.
 

hopkins

Active member
Not since dec 27 when the guy on the phone said to send what I told him to the complaints department who have completely ignored me. I didn't share that detail yet but I'll try phoning them again. Thank you for the help.
 

nathanjrb

Prolific Poster
A keyboard with only some keys not working sounds like the ribbon which connects it to the motherboard may not have been seated properly. It could actually be a really simple fix. Hope it gets sorted for you.

EDIT: Oh I just saw that PaulH mentioned that already :)
 

hopkins

Active member
So, I phoned PC Specialist and the guy on the phone explained that PaulH is the head of the call centre and is therefore extremely busy. He also started looking into how much they would charge me to upgrade to the Cosmos II, and should be messaging me about this. I'm not sure how they'll calculate that, but hopefully it won't end up costing more than if I had just ordered a Cosmos II in the first place.
 

hopkins

Active member
PCS emailed me with the following:

After discussing the possible options with PaulH it has been decided that we are not able to offer a chassis change as the hardware in the laptop you have already would not be compatible with the Cosmos II chassis. I can confirm that your laptop issue has been resolved and will be dispatched first thing tomorrow and it should be with you on Wednesday.

Mixed feelings. While it will be nice to have my laptop back, I feel like the amount of hassle I've been put through hasn't justified buying from PC Specialist as opposed to more a common brand like Asus for example. Having said that, I can't say how Asus and/or the retailer I bought from would have dealt with similar problems.

I'll wait until my laptop arrives to comment further.
 
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keynes

Multiverse Poster
I ordered a couple of Asus laptops never had a problem apart from a faulty power supply and it took them a month and a half to get me a replacement and many emails. While the wait and constant issues you experienced is not ideal PCS has tried to get any problems you experienced sorted.
 

hopkins

Active member
They have tried to sort things out, but not with a particularly high rate of success (from my perspective, though they "guarantee" the problem was fixed when they sent it off).

I hope that when my laptop arrives I can feel I made the right choice of company, but I can't say I feel that way right now. Maybe there are still surprises in store to make me change my mind.
 
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