Vyper 17.3 Build

[toon_mad]

Hi all,

looking to buy the Vyper 17.3 but have a few questions. I've had bad luck with bigger known brands in the past such as HP Omen and having backlight bleed and ips glow, when spending ~£2k on a laptop I want the display to be perfect. So with that said is it straight forward to return if not happy with the display? additionally when it is getting built can we get assurances the display will be perfect?

Also I'm torn between the 2070 super or the 2080 super max-q. What power draw will this 2080 maxq be, 90w, 115w etc? My understanding is anything lower then 90w it wont be great at all so im unsure as to get 2070s or 2080s max-q.

Finally anyone that has this laptop what is the keyboard and speakers like and also will this laptop work well with Linux? I do use Win 10 but also linux a lot.

Thanks

PS, this was the spec I had so far:

Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER Max-Q - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 665p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2000MB/sR | 1925MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 665p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2000MB/sR | 1925MB/sW)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Vyper Series Integrated 91WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VYPER 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM7MQ8P (8GB RTX-2080 SUPER MAX Q, i7-10875H, 144Hz, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £1,989.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[GRAYFOX]

I would also like to know the wattage of this systems gpu. I did email pcspecialist directly but got a very concerning and unsatisfactory responce. They are unsure of the specs of the components that they use and advised me that the power adapter is an indicator of the wattage of the gpu. Based on that information i looked on there website again and got conflicting results.

The 15.6 Recoil IV has a 2080 Max Q and a 230w power adaptor.

The 17.3 Defiance VII has a 2080 Super max Q but only has a 180w power adaptor(not a 230w)

The 17.3 Vyper has a 2080 Max Q advertised in the spec's but the 2080 super max Q is available as an option and this laptop has a 230w adaptor.

Considering we are able to spec these laptops ourselves and that there are a variety of options avalible i think it is unacceptable not to include the wattage of the gpu's as this affects performance and thus value of the component.

I also had a bad experience with a main brand(asus zephyrus gx701lxs) and as such i will not be purchasing unless i am very satisfied that i know what i am getting.

Please could you confirm which of the systems contain a 2080 super max q( not the older 2080 max q) and what wattage they are as this has am impact on performance.

These are the specs that i am considering.

Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER Max-Q - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB Intel® H10 NVMe SSD + 32GB Intel® Optane™ (up to 2400MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)

Get Assassin's Creed: Valhalla with select SAMSUNG SSDs!
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Vyper Series Integrated 91WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VYPER 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days

£2,461.00

 

[GRAYFOX]

I would also like to know the wattage of this systems gpu. I did email pcspecialist directly but got a very concerning and unsatisfactory responce. They are unsure of the specs of the components that they use and advised me that the power adapter is an indicator of the wattage of the gpu. Based on that information i looked on there website again and got conflicting results.

The 15.6 Recoil IV has a 2080 Max Q and a 230w power adaptor.

The 17.3 Defiance VII has a 2080 Super max Q but only has a 180w power adaptor(not a 230w)

The 17.3 Vyper has a 2080 Max Q advertised in the spec's but the 2080 super max Q is available as an option and this laptop has a 230w adaptor.

Considering we are able to spec these laptops ourselves and that there are a variety of options avalible i think it is unacceptable not to include the wattage of the gpu's as this affects performance and thus value of the component.

I also had a bad experience with a main brand(asus zephyrus gx701lxs) and as such i will not be purchasing unless i am very satisfied that i know what i am getting.

Please could you confirm which of the systems contain a 2080 super max q( not the older 2080 max q) and what wattage they are as this has am impact on performance.

These are the specs that i am considering.

Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER Max-Q - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB Intel® H10 NVMe SSD + 32GB Intel® Optane™ (up to 2400MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)

Get Assassin's Creed: Valhalla with select SAMSUNG SSDs!
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Vyper Series Integrated 91WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VYPER 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days

£2,461.00

Just an update.

I was contacted by the enquiry department to tell me that they dont have the information to hand and that if i would like they could contact the RandD department to get the information.

This has put me off of spending my money with pcspecialist as i asked a question expecting to get an answer not to be told that they could get the information if i asked them to get it which i thought would have been obvious by me asking the question in the first place.

Is this how things would have been dealt with if i had a problem with the laptop that i would ask them to fix it and have them tell me that they can fix it if i ask them to. And round and round we go. Shame as the specs were impressive if it was the 90w gpu.

 

[ubuysa]

Just an update.

I was contacted by the enquiry department to tell me that they dont have the information to hand and that if i would like they could contact the RandD department to get the information.

This has put me off of spending my money with pcspecialist as i asked a question expecting to get an answer not to be told that they could get the information if i asked them to get it which i thought would have been obvious by me asking the question in the first place.

Is this how things would have been dealt with if i had a problem with the laptop that i would ask them to fix it and have them tell me that they can fix it if i ask them to. And round and round we go. Shame as the specs were impressive if it was the 90w gpu.

It looks to me as though the PCS customer services person has done you the kindness of replying to your question with a lot of the information you requested. What they can't tell you is the power rating of the GPU - because they don't know. Personally I'd rather people tell me they don't know rather than take a guess. They have offered to contact PCS RandD to try and get an answer for you if it's that important to you. It's unfortunate (but hardly surprising) that a customer services agent, likely working from home, doesn't have their finger on the deep technical details - a detail in fact that I don't recall having been asked for before.

If you decide you don't want to buy from PCS then that's your absolute right, but you can't criticise an employee for a) having the courtesy to reply to you, b) admitting that they don't know the answer to one of your questions, and c) offering to ask the technical people to see whether the information is available. I sure hope nobody ever asks you a question to which you don't have the answer, I doubt you'd handle it any better.

 

[GRAYFOX]

If there is an avenue to which i can get the information that is being requested of me then i would go down that path. If i had to ask whether i should look then i would most likely loose my job. This is a product over £2k in value. If i am not worth a little time to gather information that i asked for then it is not worth my money. If it is the first time that people are asking about the specs of the components going into there products then there are a lot of people willing to waste their money and not doing there research. It is a big deal as the 80w 2080 super max q performs worse than the 2070 super max q so why would i pay more for less but if it is the 90w variant then it performs better and is worth the extra. I dont just blindly throw money at things. Maybe this is why most products are trash these days if people aren't bothered about what they are spending their money on. Oh and telling me that the power supply reflects the gpu power was clearly false information so what was that you were saying about taking a guess. I was not directly criticising the employee but as this is the only point of contact to the company regarding technical enquiries then i would expect that effort would be put into gathering the information otherwise just give me the contact details for the r and d department. Sounds to me like you are a bit to defensive for some reason

 

[Whirly123]

"Please could you let me know this piece of info"
"that is an unusual request, I can ask the tech guys but there might be some delay in getting the response"
"If you could find out, that would be great. Thank you!"

I am not seeing the problem? I mean I could see why "I will ask" might be better than "I can ask" but it doesn't seem like a huge issue since your response email would basically be the same.

 

[GRAYFOX]

If there is an avenue to which i can get the information that is being requested of me then i would go down that path. If i had to ask whether i should look then i would most likely loose my job. This is a product over £2k in value. If i am not worth a little time to gather information that i asked for then it is not worth my money. If it is the first time that people are asking about the specs of the components going into there products then there are a lot of people willing to waste their money and not doing there research. It is a big deal as the 80w 2080 super max q performs worse than the 2070 super max q so why would i pay more for less but if it is the 90w variant then it performs better and is worth the extra. I dont just blindly throw money at things. Maybe this is why most products are trash these days if people aren't bothered about what they are spending their money on. Oh and telling me that the power supply reflects the gpu power was clearly false information so what was that you were saying about taking a guess. I was not directly criticising the employee but as this is the only point of contact to the company regarding technical enquiries then i would expect that effort would be put into gathering the information otherwise just give me the contact details for the r and d department. Sounds to me like you are a bit to defensive for some reason

And if you cared to read the OP's comment then you would fined that i am the second person to ask for this kind of information so looks like a lack of simple research is contagious

 

[GRAYFOX]

"Please could you let me know this piece of info"
"that is an unusual request, I can ask the tech guys but there might be some delay in getting the response"
"If you could find out, that would be great. Thank you!"

I am not seeing the problem? I mean I could see why "I will ask" might be better than "I can ask" but it doesn't seem like a huge issue since your response email would basically be the same.

When i started looking for a laptop i was looking at the main brands. All of which give the wattage of the gpu. Asus zephyrus gx701lxs is OC to 120w and msi gs66 is at 90w just to mentian a few) i got the zephyrus at just over £3K and had to send it back as it was DOA. I had bad customer service from asus regarding this but the retailer(overclockers uk) were very helpful this i am looking for a replacement and anything that will make me question wether the product or service is good is a put off for me. I would not have minded waiting for the r and d team to get back to them with any information. If you were asking me where i learnt about the 2 variants of the 2080 super max q then hear is a link that might be of some help to you.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Super Max-Q Review

Today we're checking out the GeForce RTX 2080 Super Max-Q, this is Nvidia's fastest laptop GPU for power or thermally constrained laptop form factors. We're testing it...

www.google.com

Now i could have just told you to look for your self or i could have asked you if u want the link but i instead got the information for you and gave it to you. That wasn't so hard. There are many sights talking about the difference between the 2